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March 13, 2010

If you’re having girl problems I’ve got news for you son

Filed under: Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , — marathonmaiden @ 18:31

I got 99 problems but the bitch mileage ain’t one (more on that later)

Haha. So as soon as I type “it’s Friday and my stats always take a dive” is the day that I get the most hits.  Too funny! 😉

Anyhoo on to today.  I slept like a rock last night.  Out freaking cold.  Now I think I’ve mentioned this before but home =/= fun.  In fact I really don’t like spending time here.  BUT there’s something really conducive to a good night’s sleep like your childhood bed.  And boy did I did it.

I got up this morning and my calves were “eh”.  A couple people have suggested recovery / compression socks and trust me: I’ve been wearing them every night for the past week or so.  I shudder to think about what my calves would feel like if I wasn’t wearing them! But yeah, I think I’m just running so much and stretching so little (so bad!) that tight muscles are bound to crop up.

Like running so much I didn’t realize that my double days have added up essentially to an additional run! Going into today’s run I had 80.3. HOLY COW. I had an 18.7 miler route planned out for today hence the “99”.  When I realized that of course that song popped into my head and wouldn’t get out for the entirety of the LR. Oh well. It could have been worse. Jay-Z is kind of amazing.

As I mentioned yesterday, the weather this weekend is crap.  Rain, wind, blahhhh.  I debated doing the LR on the TM.  To be honest I think TM-ing a LR is pretty easy.  I’ve never really dealt with boredom on the thing before plus I knew that it would help me with pacing.

BUT I totally guilted myself into going outside. I was on FB and stalking re-looking at Lacey’s marathon pictures. And in them, she’s smiling and having a blast in weather similar to today.  So I figured that I could try to be a BAMF and get out there too. The rain, in fact, didn’t turn out to be all that bad. Yes I did get soaked to the bone BUT it was the wind that damn near killed me.  I actually got knocked over at one point.  I just kept telling myself that this is just Boston prep and that I’ll be ready for anything after this.

That said, I kind of hated almost every damn minute of this run (god damned hubris for me saying how much running was rocking lately).  I had planned on doing some pick-up work over the course of the 18.7 miles but every time I tried I just couldn’t.  I think the effects of this week (the fact that mileage is not a problem son 🙂 ) is catching up to me.  Couple that with the fact that  I’ve apparently forgotten how “hilly” my hometown is (it’s not really but my school is in an area with NO hills) and the fact that the second loop I did was the hilliest route in my repertoire and yeah…I set myself up for a doozy.

I guess I’ve already said that I hated this run but yeah. Here’s the deal:

  • 20.3 miles
  • 192 minutes 45 seconds
  • 9:29 pace

Yup. Not 18.7 miles.  20.3.  I actually thought it was only 20 which would have made my pace even slower and because I thought this I was soooo dejected when I finished.  Still I looked my my paces with good old Mr. McMillian and he says that my LR pace (for my current marathon race/pr) is 8:50-9:50.  And plugging in my goal marathon time (which I don’t think you should do?) my LR pace is 8:31-9:31. So either way today’s run was fast enough to do something.

The funny thing is that even though I had severe upset-ment right after finishing, I really didn’t care too much beyond that.  I was so drained from the effort that all I wanted to do was lay down.  I was soooo cold, hungry, tired that I couldn’t even register anything. Every muscle in my body was tired and had put in quite the effort to stay standing much less running.

And I know I’m going to get lots of comments saying “you’re doing too much” and “duh you’re tired because you’re pushing so hard”. And yes that’s true.  I 100% admit it. But I think that there’s a bigger picture here: I’ve been training at a high level for damn near 11 weeks.  OF COURSE I’m going to feel run down. And I know that.  This was the case last cycle too so even though it sucks I know I’ve been there before.

The only thing in my mind running through my mind is “how am I going to run fast at Boston?” I know it’s silly because you don’t train LRs at GMP.  You just don’t.  And I know this.  I mean, I totally confident in my ability to run 26.2 miles.  I totally have that endurance.  But race?! I think that it’s another part of where I am in the training: self-doubt. I talked a bit about comparing to others yesterday and this is the point of training where it kicks up in high gear because the race is sooo close. But I’ve also been here before: I just need to breathe and know that marathon day will come and it shall be glorious.  Positive thinking y’all 🙂

Okay so I guess overall I’m happy with the run.  Oddly I don’t feel totally upset. Yes the pace is sooo hard for me to look at. I’m so numbers driven that it’s hard to accept it.  BUT I face hard conditions at the end of a hard week. This run was totally a prep run for harsh conditions.  And I like that I was hardcore and got out there. Oh yeah, and I haven’t been talking about this that much but…

bladder = still an issue on the LR.  I really don’t know what to do about it.  Today I felt it at mile 7 but was able to ignore /hold it until I finished.  Then my fast-twitch muscles got a workout as I sprinted to the bathroom haha.  But I felt hardcore in that I didn’t have to stop during the run.

Okay I’m rambling. Again. Time to do some t.v. catch up.  Oh how I love on-demand and being at home! Also something I’m loving at the moment? Clif Bars.  I don’t know why I stayed away from bars for so long.  Now, I don’t think they should replace a meal or anything. But after a 20.3 mile run they sure are tasty as part of a snack!

Hope everyone is having a spectacular Saturday night! It doesn’t really even feel like a Saturday due to break for me 🙂



  1. A few things:

    The bladder issues suck ass. Are you gonna try to hold it for the big day? Or pit stop it? Or just let yourself go free? hmmm… it’s an issue for sure.

    Clif bars are god’s gift to active people. As soon as I get out of nut butter rehab, I’ll be checking into Clif bar rehab. One problem at a time…

    And you’re right- the wind is just a huge sucky suck. Rain wouldn’t be so bad. It can be slightly enjoyable at times. But wind is just the worst. I’m a huge baby about running when it’s windy.

    Comment by Amy @ Second City Randomness — March 13, 2010 @ 19:03

  2. Hey… stopping by to see how your Boston training is going! 🙂
    I have a friend that runs his long runs at MP. Every time. He can’t wrap his head around going slower and I can logically explain to him how I can’t run MP in a long run yet come marathon day, it all comes together and our bodies are fueled. It’s always a mystery, despite how many of these things I’ve done! I always have to pee in a marathon – always! I just factor this into the equation. :). Sounds like you’re doing a great job, keep it up and I’ll see ya in Boston!!!

    Comment by Jill — March 13, 2010 @ 19:22

  3. Way to go! Yeah, it really was a straight up terrible day to be running outside. As for the pacing, I think a LOT of it has to do with the mileage, I really do. My guess is if you were to suddenly just have a week of 50 miles after all you’ve done, they’d be pretty darn zippy. I mean, it’s not a perfect trade-off, and I really do think overall there’s more support for the big miles part of marathon training, but my point is that fresh legs have a big effect, so don’t knock yourself. There are a couple people in my triathlon club that I have no problem doing workouts with, but always think “what on earth are they going off like a rocket for on an easy day?” Well, they can hammer our runs because they’re doing 25 miles a week and I’m at 50.

    I know you’re not big on racing a whole lot but I think next cycle building in a major cutback week ending in a tune-up half marathon would be a great confidence builder for the racing aspect. Only a few more weeks until you get to taper- that must be exciting too!

    Comment by kristinschleicher — March 13, 2010 @ 19:54

  4. HAD to comment, obvi, and commend you on your title 🙂 GOOD JOB ON MILEAGE 🙂 🙂

    Comment by kathleennnn — March 13, 2010 @ 20:38

    • I 100% thought of you when that song popped into my head. No joke 🙂

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 14, 2010 @ 15:21

  5. OMG, there are so many things that I love about this post!

    First off, let me lend my encouragement for a REST DAY for you too! I know you know your body and are doing great with the intense training, but atleast consider what it may do for you physically and mentally too. I good Sunday start to your break and more ready to hammer through next week’s training perhaps? The choice is yours, and I support whatever you do!

    Second, I totally feel you on the pacing. As I was mentioning on my blog, it was crazy to run my marathon PR pace for like 8 miles and think “yikes, I ran this for 26.2!?!” There are so many physical factors that go into racing on marathon day which of course you know (rest, good sleep, taper, food) but also, the phychological effects of ‘race mode’ I think can take off like 1 min/mile in themselves! Such a different mentality and so much easier to push when you are surrounded by other people and the adrenaline is pumping!

    Thirdly, your long run was still amazing! I’m glad that you realize that and are not worrying about the pace because that is defintely are totally legit LR pace. I have sort of the opposite situation as you- my home town (parents) is pancake flat mostly, and where I live hill work is constant. So the majority of the runs it is built in. THis is good for Boston, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t kind of looking forward to running long on the flat roads tomorrow… 😉

    Ooops, now I wrote a novel of a comment on your blog! Anyway, moral of the story is CONGRATS on a good LR and good attitute, DON’T STRESS about training vs. marathon pace, and CONSIDER 😉 taking a rest day.

    PS> thanks for the tips re: nutrition on my blog. i’m going to have to try that alarm idea, especially on days when I am soo uber busy!

    Comment by tmart — March 13, 2010 @ 20:39

  6. Haha I actually wrote that post before I read yours! No joke!

    Great run by the way 🙂

    Comment by Matt — March 13, 2010 @ 22:29

  7. Sounds like a lot of the problem was the weather. Of course you are going to run slower if you are dealing with tons of wind. But you’re right… you don’t know what the weather is going to be like at Boston so you might as well be mentally prepared for anything.

    Comment by Chelsea — March 14, 2010 @ 07:53

  8. I just want to comment on the bladder issues and on the first comment of your blog. This is totally my opinion, but I’ve done 20 marathons, so…

    Please don’t pee yourself during the race. If you have to go, stop at the porta. In my opinion, unless you are in the Olympics, no PR is worth that. It is very unladylike and gross! Plus, the race will be crowded, and do you really want people around you knowing you did that? Yes, they will be able to tell. I’ve had some marathons where I’ve stopped at the porta, and it was no biggie. Yeah, it added almost a minute, but it saved my dignity.

    Also, Kristin has a great idea w/ the tune-up races. I think at least one tune-up is important for two reasons. 1. Get out some of those racing jitters. 2. Help you set an appropriate goal.

    Those are just my thoughts. I hope you are planning a really steep taper. I think the final two weeks of low mileage will set you up for a ROCKING race.

    Comment by Rebecca — March 14, 2010 @ 08:22

    • Oh don’t worry I have no plans on peeing myself during the race. I don’t forsee the bladder being an issue during the race (as I’ve had some recent runs where I could hold it) and it seems that the faster I run the less the urge to go happens. So I guess I should just run fast 🙂

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 14, 2010 @ 15:24

  9. “severe upset-ment”, I love this term and will be stealing it. Eh, don’t worry about the pace, the weather was something else yesterday, you ran on hills when you normally don’t and you have mega-miles going on. Those 3 things are pretty much going to ensure a non-speedy pace. And there’s nothing wrong with that!! Time on your feet, remember? This is important, so you done good.

    About the bladder. Do you leave some room between your last gulp of water and your run? And do you get every possible drop out before you leave the house? Before I go out, I pee about 5 times from the time I put my running gear on till I get out the door, even if it’s just a tiny squirt (and somehow there’s always a little squirt left). You getting every little thimbleful out before you leave the house? 🙂

    Comment by Flo — March 14, 2010 @ 08:35

    • I pee 10 seconds before I leave the door and make sure I get “every thimbleful out”. 🙂 I’ve tried eating salt in my morning oats to try to retain some water (and I’ve had the issues with and without salt so I don’t think it does anything). I have noticed that the fast I run the less I have to pee so I guess I need to run Boston pretty darn fast then 🙂

      And thanks for the “time on your feet” reminder. I suppose that’s the whole point of the LR.

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 14, 2010 @ 15:27

  10. Well I was going to run this morning and yesterday morning but it has been pouring non stop AND windy and i just couldnt do it! I just dont have any desire to be cold and wet! glad you got the LR done and had a good nights sleep! I used to sleep better at home when I was in college too! Its funny that way!

    Comment by J — March 14, 2010 @ 10:12

  11. Ok. Pace, on crappy-face weather runs, is in my opinion completely arbitrary. You’ve put in dozens upon dozens of miles over the past few weeks, and it truly only makes sense that your body won’t fully perform under hard circumstances.*
    Kristin makes a good point about tune-ups. Find a low key race that won’t break the bank, practice your routine and bladder control. Or maybe do a tiny personal race simulation on your own?
    *there were so many double entendres in this sentence I could barely stand it. sorry.

    Comment by sarah — March 14, 2010 @ 13:31

  12. Don’t forget that the hills and wind will have made an impression on your time! Congrats on the mega mileage this week!

    Comment by Laura — March 14, 2010 @ 15:12

  13. […] has turned into a monsoon.  Not cool.  I’m glad that I went outside yesterday and had a kind-of-crappy but kind-of-awesome run (BTW: Thanks for all your  kind comments about that run.  It made me feel really good and perked […]

    Pingback by Pi Day « MarathonMaiden's Blog — March 14, 2010 @ 20:48

  14. mileage is SOooo not your problem 🙂 you really go the distance, not to be cliche. gosh, running in the rain is really just something else. and we had wind + cold, too. i wrote on your FB wall but seriously i had EXACT marathon deja vu, it’s so funny that you thought the same thing!!!!!! and i felt the same way when i finished but i actually sat in an ice bath during which i thought i might die, and after which i took kthe hottest shower i have ever taken and prolly undid all the ice bath goodness. lol. but wow. what a day.

    congrats on your 20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if i could just run 20 miles i would be so happy. pace be damned.

    Comment by Lacey — March 14, 2010 @ 23:04

  15. Just catching up: being at home is not great. I hear you on that point. On the bladder issue, you may have to incorporate a port-a-potty break or 2 during Boston. I talked to a few marathoners on the team and they never make it for 26.2 w/o stopping. In fact, they looked at my cross-eyed when I asked.

    Comment by A Marathoner — March 15, 2010 @ 15:40

    • Yeah. It’s just annoying because I didn’t have this problem AT ALL last cycle and definitely didn’t take a break during the race itself.

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 15, 2010 @ 18:43

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