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March 23, 2010

Another Interval Tuesday. Mojo = Back

Filed under: Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , , — marathonmaiden @ 19:35

Yup.  It’s official: I must have been delusional when I thought that this week would be a nice transition back into school.  And I guess it is if you like trial by fire.  Me? Not so much.

I’m feeling MUCH better about life in general though.  I did another night of “sweat out the cold” and I definitely think things are improving.  I took some benadryl too which I think helped the allergy portion of my ickyness.  If anything it knocked me out fast because I had to sleep with two pillows again. Blah.

I’m also feeling better after reading your awesome words yesterday about comparing.  I know it’s silly to do.  Which makes me feel *worse* because I know that comparing =/= good.  Like many of you said, running is really individual.  Sure people can compete against each other but, and this goes for me, running is about challenging *yourself’*.  I think I lost sight of that for a minute. It’s partly your fault though for running so many amazing races over the weekend 😛

But I got my mojo back speed wise.  Yup. It’s interval Tuesday in MM’s world.  This week’s main course? Let’s check it out:

  • Warm up
  • 2 3 X [4 X 800m] @ 10k pace (7:08) w/ 90 seconds ( .2 mi )recovery between repeats and 5 mins (.6 mi) recovery between sets
  • 3 miles GMP
  • Warm down

I went into this workout thinking that I really didn’t want to do it.  Because of the sickness, allergies, legs, no real sleep etc I was tired to the bone.  After my early Spanish class I really wanted to go back to sleep.  My eyes were just so heavy.  Since it was rainy hardcore today I would have been in the gym anyway.  Plus after a week of running outside it was probably a good idea to use the TM to “baby” my leg.  So I told myself that I could do as much of the workout as I could and then just easy run or elliptical if I was truly tired. Running though has the funny way of giving you energy.  So while I am a bit tired in general from life stuff I felt great for completing it and it totally woke me up.  I had forgotten how running does that to me.

And Whew.  It was quite challenging.  In the past I’ve only done two sets of 800s.  I was tempted to do straight up Yassos but since the workout was on the TM, I didn’t think that it would be useful to me. So I kept those 5 minutes or so in (it probably was more than 5 minutes because, on a TM, I don’t want to have to think too much about when to start and stop the intervals.  I know that 90 seconds is ~.2 miles and 5 minutes is ~ .6 miles so I went with that to make the math easier.  Plus, I’m not going to lie: having extra recovery is not a bad thing so late in the training)

I was a little worried that my body would fall apart after the second set.  Yes I’ve done a hill workout following 2 sets before but hills =/= intervals.  Yes hills are hard but they are a different beast.  Although sidenote: I read in one of my training log books, which includes little factoids, tips and motivational quotes, that one should do hills BEFORE intervals.  Obviously I don’t think my doing it the other way is a big deal but it doesn’t say why that is.  Any thoughts? Pure curiosity on my part.

But the intervals went really well.  I don’t know what it is but the first repeat of each set felt like death but the last 3 were always good.  I suspect that even though extra recovery is nice I probably took too much haha.  But whatever, I wanted the math to work nicely.  I finished the sets really strong.  I doubt I could have done many more repeats buttttt I did 12.  No need to do more!

Even though I REALLY wanted to do hills this week: I didn’t.  After speaking to lots of people (including the sports med doc,  high school t&f coach, PT) it just seemed like too much a risk to push through hill repeats.  I even went as far as to write down the hill portion on my workout piece of paper! And I kept thinking of how to sneak in hills.  I’m just worried that I haven’t done hills the past 3 weeks and I don’t want all that hill-fitness to go be for nothing! As a compromise I chose to do some GMP work instead.

I figured that since the repeats took a considerable amount of distance that I would cut the warm down short (I hadn’t needed that long of a warm up either today, saving some more miles to “quality”) and make the GMP 3 miles long.  These miles weren’t really *for* anything.  I just think it’s important to show my legs and mind that I can handle this pace after a challenging workout and the distance of 3 miles is arbitrary.  No offense to those who consider ❤ miles a run but I don’t.  I’m too much of a mileage junkie for that.  3 miles roughly a 5k so that seemed good enough for me.

The pace felt really easy (and duh after running so hard in the intervals) which is good.  Yes they were coming off faster work but it could have felt sooo hard if my legs were exhausted.  Clearly this wasn’t the case and is another pat on the back to me. Yay.

Also a couple of you mentioned a foam roller. While I resisted shelling out the $$ (I honestly don’t know how I’m going to pay for it when I get the bill) I finally caved over break and ordered one.  I think I got it for $25 (including shipping) so it’s not toooo bad but I’m hemmoraging money over here with co-pays and bills! *LeSigh*.  But I was happy when my PT suggested I get one and I could tell her that I had already ordered one.  Hopefully I find the time to use it and maybe it’ll jump start an overall stretching routine.

I also have purchased little ice packs.  You know the kind that you put in kids lunchboxes? I figured that a lot of days I’m not going to have access to an ice machine right after a workout (aka the weekends or any outdoor run) so this will be a makeshift way to keep the icing up!

Okay. I’ve sufficiently procrastinated on this quantum exam for long enough (and I doubt many of you have read this far since I write so much haha!!) Gotta get some work on it before LOST comes on.

Hope everyone is having a great Tuesday!


  1. That’s a pretty gnarly sounding workout you did there. Glad to hear you picked up a foam roller. Up until last year, I had been using The Stick (and still do) and was skeptical of how much better I could feel with the roller, but eventually my girlfriend convinced me and the difference is significant. Hopefully it works well for you too. And I know all about how hesitant one can be to spend money on stuff like that, I’m an Americorps volunteer this year, I don’t even technically earn an income so it’s a good thing I get my shoes at a 40% discount!

    Clearly, I have no issues with lengthy writing, as evinced in my own ramblings 😉

    Comment by runningmanz — March 23, 2010 @ 20:29

    • Americorps in on my “look into” list for post grad. I’ve already chalked up my future to debt and little income though haha. I have the stick too but I’m hoping using the two in tandem will help

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 25, 2010 @ 23:11

      • I had done a year of grad school basically right after graduating and realized that I sorta needed a break from school. I intend to come back but I just was feeling real burnt out. The bonus with Americorps is that I get to delay moving on to the “real world” for another year and at the end I get a serious chunk of money to pay off some of those loans.

        I use the Stick and the roller in tandem now too, it works so much better than either separately.

        Comment by runningmanz — March 25, 2010 @ 23:22

  2. Think of the foam rolling investment as saving you from future co-pays for injury treatment down the road 😉 (I can manipulate anything….)

    Comment by Heather — March 23, 2010 @ 20:48

  3. 12 repeats, yeah! That is straight up impressive. And thanks for the shout out. I am super excited about you and Lacey running ES this weekend, I think there will be some GBTC peeps there (too bad it costs money, otherwise I would be really tempted to go and do it as a training run).

    I’m curious what other people have to say about the doing hills before intervals thing. My thinking is mainly that if you are doing hills to focus on your form and/or top-end speed (as you might with some of the Lydiard hill bounding and drills, or hill sprints a la Hudson), then you should do them fresh since working on form tired is usually a losing proposition. But for using longer hills to build strength/simulate Boston/get a little extra time at high HR, I can’t really see why it would make that much of a difference either way.

    Comment by kristinschleicher — March 23, 2010 @ 21:03

  4. great workout girl!!

    Comment by feetinmotion — March 23, 2010 @ 21:27

  5. there are REALLY great ice packs at CVS that come with their own velcro holder-thingies. i highly recommend them. you’re running along wonderfully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yes i agree about the hearing it thing- YOU ARE AWESOME AND AMAZING as always 🙂 🙂 way to hit the intervals. seriously, that’s a lot 🙂

    Comment by Lacey — March 23, 2010 @ 21:43

  6. Glad you got a roller! They are worth every penny!

    Comment by Matt — March 23, 2010 @ 22:09

  7. If we’re going to do some comparisons, can I run intervals at your 10K pace? Man o man, girl, you are speedy!! Me, I ate entire bag of Cheetos instead. I’m glad your mojo is back and training is strong!!! Race time here soon….. eeks.

    Comment by Jill — March 23, 2010 @ 22:53

  8. Good luck studying! I’ve been thinking about investing in the foam roller, too. I hear they’re just wonderful!

    Comment by Amy @ Second City Randomness — March 24, 2010 @ 00:31

  9. I’m interested to see how you like the foam roller. I’ve tried my friends’, but didn’t really ‘get it.’ Sooo many people are obsessed with them though!

    Thanks for your comment. I’m totally NOT speedy, I think I was just too scared to fall behind the guys I was running with! Great workout to you too! 12 repeats = hard core.

    Comment by tmart — March 24, 2010 @ 04:47

    • Yeah, I don’t really “get” the obsession either but I figured that it couldn’t hurt especially when my PT suggested it too (although by then I had already bought it hah!)

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 25, 2010 @ 23:13

  10. Great work on the intervals 🙂 it feels so good to get a workout done when beforehand you really felt like you were too tired to do it!

    Comment by Laura — March 24, 2010 @ 05:59

  11. I dont know the difference between doing hills first or intervals first. I guess it just depends. I think mixing it up keeps your body from getting used to a set and therefore plateauing. Great job on the intervals this week! 12x800m is a lot!

    Comment by J — March 24, 2010 @ 08:21

  12. Impressive interval work! Do you like doing intervals? Interval work is so effective, but I have a hard time getting them done. Do you do anything to reward or motivate yourself? I always use one kind of challenge or game to get through them. For example, if my time for any of the intervals is slower than the first one, I have to run an extra one and if they are all faster than the first one, I can do one less.

    Comment by Balanced runner — March 24, 2010 @ 10:02

    • I love intervals when I’m done with them haha! I always feel like a champ but it’s so hard to want to push myself to the edge. And no I don’t do any rewards thing, I don’t need to and my type-A self would never allow me to stop early for anything and I usually end up doing more anyway hah!

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 25, 2010 @ 23:16

  13. Dang, that is quite the workout. Glad to hear you are taking it easy on the hills per your PT and track coach. I agree the foam roller is awesome. I like to use it on my back and shoulders after a long day of typing/mouse use.

    Comment by EarlyRunner — March 24, 2010 @ 10:41

  14. NICE workout, glad you are getting your mojo back! that’s a super impressive workout – 12 800s?? holy hell! lol ummm i would have skipped the hills too if i were you 🙂

    foam rollers are AMAZING…i’ve just been using the one at the gym but am totally on the brink of investing in one of my own.

    thanks for the race shoutout! 🙂 i’m sure you’re going to rock it out at eastern states this weekend!!

    Comment by HurdlingHam — March 24, 2010 @ 12:25

  15. Yo, so I did a measly six 800s this morning and wanted to stop early. And I get on the interwebs and see that you did TWICE that! Zowie.
    As for the GMP miles, I think they have great utility. One of my favorite workouts involved two miles at tempo, then some fast 400s, then more tempo. Hard as hell, but it teaches your legs how to run while tired, while still getting some of the lactic acid out.

    Comment by sarah — March 24, 2010 @ 12:54

  16. yeah this cold seems to sweeping over us all! I just got over one…glad you feel better. have you ever used “The stick”?

    Comment by Christina — March 24, 2010 @ 14:12

    • Yes, I actually own one. I just rarely use it. I never find the time to do anything like that. I’m too lazy ha!

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 25, 2010 @ 23:17

  17. A foam roller is a good investment and will probably pay for itself. Can’t believe you did 12 repeats–awesome!

    Comment by runjess — March 24, 2010 @ 14:33

  18. Fog is creepy!! I can’t remember I time I really ran in it though. Good luck and hope you hit your times!! 🙂

    Comment by feetinmotion — March 24, 2010 @ 15:21

  19. Welcome to the foam roller club 🙂

    Comment by Runeatrepeat — March 24, 2010 @ 17:10

  20. Again, I’m playing catch up. So sorry you are sick. Between the change in environs (school, home) and wacked out weather, it’s no wonder your immune system took a hit. Better to get the sickness out now before Boston.

    Nice controlled workout. Glad you skipped hill work. Just too risky right now with everything going on for you. Very smart.

    Comment by a marathoner — March 24, 2010 @ 17:31

  21. I’m a FOAM ROLLER FOR LIFE!!!…ughh sorry you are having to go through the transition back into school…that’s the toughest part about getting a glorious week off!! WAY to listen to that body and control your workout… STUD-muffin! hehehe! I hope you are having a fabulous wednesday! xoxo!

    Comment by Lizzy — March 24, 2010 @ 18:57

  22. I wish I had more time to read too! I love reading but seem to just be reading textbooks these day. So annoying!! What’s even more annoying is dorm freezers!! I need ice, not water that turns to ice in a few days. 😦

    Comment by feetinmotion — March 24, 2010 @ 21:16

  23. The foam roller is my best friend. I don’t know what I would do without it 🙂

    Comment by Meg @ Be fit Be Full — March 25, 2010 @ 10:03

  24. I’m glad you bought the foam roller, I think it will be really helpful. I had no idea they were expensive! I might give the one in my gym a little more appreciation now.

    Comment by Ameena — March 25, 2010 @ 11:09

  25. I had a foam roller for my feet last year…where the hell is it now? URRG! Thanks for reminding me!
    Sounds like you need a massage! Any guys around?

    Comment by Special K — March 25, 2010 @ 14:57

  26. You won’t regret spending $$ on the roller. It’s a great investment. I’d haul mine to Boston if it wasn’t so dang big.
    Nice intervals. You know you’re a total badass when your workouts require mathematical equations! Glad the mojo is back!

    Comment by Teamarcia — March 25, 2010 @ 18:59

    • Math = my life. hahaha. And I’m sincerely hoping I don’t regret spending the $$. I just need to find the time to make sure I’m rolling!

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 25, 2010 @ 23:18

  27. Sadly the sun did not come out 😦 boooo

    Comment by feetinmotion — March 25, 2010 @ 20:02

  28. Yay on the mojo, baby!! Great workout, nothing like doing a hard one and not sucking to give your confidence back. And that’s a tough one!! Mucho 800s, man.

    Comment by Flo — March 25, 2010 @ 20:28

    • Awww thanks girl! “Hearing” you say that the workout was a tough one really means a lot 🙂

      Comment by marathonmaiden — March 25, 2010 @ 23:19

  29. I reallyyy think the foam roller is a worthy investment! Where are you? I miss your posts this week haha Hope school is going well!

    Comment by BostonRunner — March 26, 2010 @ 14:13

  30. Hey – you ok? 3 days without blogging is unheard of from you!

    Comment by A Marathoner — March 26, 2010 @ 15:38

  31. YES – take homes suck ! :(…but FOAM ROLLERS Rock!! 🙂 Take care girl…I’m right there with you…only I don’t run…;)

    Comment by eatmovelove — March 26, 2010 @ 18:20

  32. I never doubt that your mojo is back with a wicked vengeance. If you had to baby your leg, I’m sure it was the right decision. Did the exam cower before you and skulk away?

    Comment by EE — March 26, 2010 @ 18:29

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